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378: Legless …. again



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Main Topic: Amputations in exotic pets

It can be a challenge to amputate a limb from an exotic pet. It is not just the technical aspects of the surgery – patient selection is a key part of maximising the success of an amputation.

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Microchips Australia: Microchips Australia is the Australian distributor for: Trovan microchips, readers and reading systems; Lone Star Veterinary Retractor systems and Petrek GPS tracking products. Microchips Australia is run by veterinarians experienced in small and large animal as well as avian and exotic practice, they know exactly what is needed for your practice.

Specialised Animal Nutrition. Specialised Animal Nutrition is the Australian distributor of Oxbow Animal Health products. Used and recommended by top exotic animal veterinarians around the globe,  the Oxbow range comprises premium life-staged feeds and supportive care products for small herbivores.

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The veterinary podcast about veterinary medicine and surgery, current news items of interest, case reports and anecdotes. Wait: It’s not all about veterinary matters! We also discuss other areas we are passionate about, including photography and wildlife. Thanks for joining us – Brendan and Mark.

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372 Bird Scan



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Main Topic: Ultrasound in Bird

Mark delves into the usefulness or otherwise of ultrasound examination in birds.

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Microchips Australia: Microchips Australia is the Australian distributor for: Trovan microchips, readers and reading systems; Lone Star Veterinary Retractor systems and Petrek GPS tracking products. Microchips Australia is run by veterinarians experienced in small and large animal as well as avian and exotic practice, they know exactly what is needed for your practice.

Specialised Animal Nutrition. Specialised Animal Nutrition is the Australian distributor of Oxbow Animal Health products. Used and recommended by top exotic animal veterinarians around the globe,  the Oxbow range comprises premium life-staged feeds and supportive care products for small herbivores.

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371: Billie who?



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Main Topic: Biliverdinuria in birds

Mark dives into the fascinating world of green and yellow, with a chat about biliverdinuria in avian species. Sounds a dry subject but listen in to learn about this fascinating issue!

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Chemical Essentials. Cleaning and disinfection products and solutions for a wide variety of industries throughout Australia, as well as specific markets in New Zealand, Singapore and Papua New Guinea. The sole importer of the internationally acclaimed F10SC Disinfectant and its related range of advanced cleaning, personal hygiene and animal skin care products.

Specialised Animal Nutrition. Specialised Animal Nutrition is the Australian distributor of Oxbow Animal Health products. Used and recommended by top exotic animal veterinarians around the globe,  the Oxbow range comprises premium life-staged feeds and supportive care products for small herbivores.

About Our Podcast

The veterinary podcast about veterinary medicine and surgery, current news items of interest, case reports and anecdotes. Wait: It’s not all about veterinary matters! We also discuss other areas we are passionate about, including photography and wildlife. Thanks for joining us – Brendan and Mark.

Our podcast is for veterinarians, veterinary students and veterinary nurses/technicians. If you are at pet owner please search elsewhere – there are lots of great podcasts aimed specifically at pet owners.

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370: Pain in the Gut



News:

Main Topic: Typhlitis/appendicitis in rabbits

Do we see typhlitis/appendicitis in rabbits? What exactly is this condition? We try to answer these questions and more this week!

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Specialised Animal Nutrition. Specialised Animal Nutrition is the Australian distributor of Oxbow Animal Health products. Used and recommended by top exotic animal veterinarians around the globe,  the Oxbow range comprises premium life-staged feeds and supportive care products for small herbivores.

Microchips Australia: Microchips Australia is the Australian distributor for: Trovan microchips, readers and reading systems; Lone Star Veterinary Retractor systems and Petrek GPS tracking products. Microchips Australia is run by veterinarians experienced in small and large animal as well as avian and exotic practice, they know exactly what is needed for your practice.

Chemical Essentials. Cleaning and disinfection products and solutions for a wide variety of industries throughout Australia, as well as specific markets in New Zealand, Singapore and Papua New Guinea. The sole importer of the internationally acclaimed F10SC Disinfectant and its related range of advanced cleaning, personal hygiene and animal skin care products.

About Our Podcast

The veterinary podcast about veterinary medicine and surgery, current news items of interest, case reports and anecdotes. Wait: It’s not all about veterinary matters! We also discuss other areas we are passionate about, including photography and wildlife. Thanks for joining us – Brendan and Mark.

Our podcast is for veterinarians, veterinary students and veterinary nurses/technicians. If you are at pet owner please search elsewhere – there are lots of great podcasts aimed specifically at pet owners.

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366: Thousand Year Old Egg



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Main Topic: Reptile Egg Post mortem

What can you find out from a necropsy of a reptile egg? Listen in to learn!

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Chemical Essentials. Cleaning and disinfection products and solutions for a wide variety of industries throughout Australia, as well as specific markets in New Zealand, Singapore and Papua New Guinea. The sole importer of the internationally acclaimed F10SC Disinfectant and its related range of advanced cleaning, personal hygiene and animal skin care products.

Specialised Animal Nutrition. Specialised Animal Nutrition is the Australian distributor of Oxbow Animal Health products. Used and recommended by top exotic animal veterinarians around the globe,  the Oxbow range comprises premium life-staged feeds and supportive care products for small herbivores.

About Our Podcast

The veterinary podcast about veterinary medicine and surgery, current news items of interest, case reports and anecdotes. Wait: It’s not all about veterinary matters! We also discuss other areas we are passionate about, including photography and wildlife. Thanks for joining us – Brendan and Mark.

Our podcast is for veterinarians, veterinary students and veterinary nurses/technicians. If you are at pet owner please search elsewhere – there are lots of great podcasts aimed specifically at pet owners.

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364: Scaly Papers



News

Main Topic: Reptile Journal Club

This week we discuss 3 reptile papers that were published in The Journal of Herpetological Medicine and Surgery:

  • Dubia Roaches (Blaptica dubia): Food for Insectivores Made Better by Gut Loading with a High Calcium Commercial Diet. In: The Journal of Herpetological Medicine and Surgery, Volume 34, No. 3, 2024 pp. 184–192
  • Diagnosis of Orthopedic Fractures Using Craniodorsal-Caudoventral Oblique and Caudodorsal-Cranioventral Oblique Radiographic Views Made at 45 to the Frontal Plane in Four Wild Turtles. In: The Journal of Herpetological Medicine and Surgery, Volume 34, No. 3, 2024 pp. 175–183
  • Simple Brachial Venipuncture Technique in Large Softshell Turtles (Nilssonia spp.). In: The Journal of Herpetological Medicine and Surgery, Volume 34, No. 3, 2024 pp. 157–159

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Specialised Animal Nutrition. Specialised Animal Nutrition is the Australian distributor of Oxbow Animal Health products. Used and recommended by top exotic animal veterinarians around the globe,  the Oxbow range comprises premium life-staged feeds and supportive care products for small herbivores.

Microchips Australia: Microchips Australia is the Australian distributor for: Trovan microchips, readers and reading systems; Lone Star Veterinary Retractor systems and Petrek GPS tracking products. Microchips Australia is run by veterinarians experienced in small and large animal as well as avian and exotic practice, they know exactly what is needed for your practice.

About Our Podcast

The veterinary podcast about veterinary medicine and surgery, current news items of interest, case reports and anecdotes. Wait: It’s not all about veterinary matters! We also discuss other areas we are passionate about, including photography and wildlife. Thanks for joining us – Brendan and Mark.

Our podcast is for veterinarians, veterinary students and veterinary nurses/technicians. If you are at pet owner please search elsewhere – there are lots of great podcasts aimed specifically at pet owners.

Disclaimer

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360: Bug Eye



News

  • We answer a question from Casey, one of our Patreon subscribers, regarding Chytrid fungus.

Main Topic: Pseudobuphthalmos in snakes

Big words – big problem. This week we tackle the issue of ‘bug eye’ in snakes: pseudobuphthalmos, and th challenges of treating this condition.

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Chemical Essentials. Cleaning and disinfection products and solutions for a wide variety of industries throughout Australia, as well as specific markets in New Zealand, Singapore and Papua New Guinea. The sole importer of the internationally acclaimed F10SC Disinfectant and its related range of advanced cleaning, personal hygiene and animal skin care products.

Specialised Animal Nutrition. Specialised Animal Nutrition is the Australian distributor of Oxbow Animal Health products. Used and recommended by top exotic animal veterinarians around the globe,  the Oxbow range comprises premium life-staged feeds and supportive care products for small herbivores.

About Our Podcast

The veterinary podcast about veterinary medicine and surgery, current news items of interest, case reports and anecdotes. Wait: It’s not all about veterinary matters! We also discuss other areas we are passionate about, including photography and wildlife. Thanks for joining us – Brendan and Mark.

Our podcast is for veterinarians, veterinary students and veterinary nurses/technicians. If you are at pet owner please search elsewhere – there are lots of great podcasts aimed specifically at pet owners.

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356: Too Much to Barium



Main Topic: Contrast Radiography in Exotics Practice

Contrast radiography as a diagnostic technique in exotics practice is discussed this week.

References : RADIOGRAPHIC ANATOMY AND BARIUM SULFATE CONTRAST TRANSIT TIME OF THE GASTROINTESTINAL TRACT OF BEARDED DRAGONS (Pogona vitticeps)


COMPARISON OF GASTROGRAFIN TO BARIUM SULFATE AS A GASTROINTESTINAL CONTRAST AGENT IN RED-EARED SLIDER TURTLES (TRACHEMYS SCRIPTA ELEGANS)

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Specialised Animal Nutrition. Specialised Animal Nutrition is the Australian distributor of Oxbow Animal Health products. Used and recommended by top exotic animal veterinarians around the globe,  the Oxbow range comprises premium life-staged feeds and supportive care products for small herbivores.

Chemical Essentials. Cleaning and disinfection products and solutions for a wide variety of industries throughout Australia, as well as specific markets in New Zealand, Singapore and Papua New Guinea. The sole importer of the internationally acclaimed F10SC Disinfectant and its related range of advanced cleaning, personal hygiene and animal skin care products.

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The veterinary podcast about veterinary medicine and surgery, current news items of interest, case reports and anecdotes. Wait: It’s not all about veterinary matters! We also discuss other areas we are passionate about, including photography and wildlife. Thanks for joining us – Brendan and Mark.

Our podcast is for veterinarians, veterinary students and veterinary nurses/technicians. If you are at pet owner please search elsewhere – there are lots of great podcasts aimed specifically at pet owners.

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354: Don’t Get Cocky



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Main Topic: Mark’s 5 top tips about sulphur crested cockatoos

Struggling to deal with Sulphur Crested Cockatoos? Worry no more (or maybe continue to worry!): Mark goes over his 5 top tips for dealing with SCC’s in a veterinary practice.

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Chemical Essentials. Cleaning and disinfection products and solutions for a wide variety of industries throughout Australia, as well as specific markets in New Zealand, Singapore and Papua New Guinea. The sole importer of the internationally acclaimed F10SC Disinfectant and its related range of advanced cleaning, personal hygiene and animal skin care products.

Microchips Australia: Microchips Australia is the Australian distributor for: Trovan microchips, readers and reading systems; Lone Star Veterinary Retractor systems and Petrek GPS tracking products. Microchips Australia is run by veterinarians experienced in small and large animal as well as avian and exotic practice, they know exactly what is needed for your practice.

Specialised Animal Nutrition. Specialised Animal Nutrition is the Australian distributor of Oxbow Animal Health products. Used and recommended by top exotic animal veterinarians around the globe,  the Oxbow range comprises premium life-staged feeds and supportive care products for small herbivores.

About Our Podcast

The veterinary podcast about veterinary medicine and surgery, current news items of interest, case reports and anecdotes. Wait: It’s not all about veterinary matters! We also discuss other areas we are passionate about, including photography and wildlife. Thanks for joining us – Brendan and Mark.

Our podcast is for veterinarians, veterinary students and veterinary nurses/technicians. If you are at pet owner please search elsewhere – there are lots of great podcasts aimed specifically at pet owners.

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352: Magpie Supporter



News

  • No news this week

Main Topic:  Bird Eye removal

We cover a challenging topic this – removal of eyes from birds. Why? How? Tips and Tricks

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Specialised Animal Nutrition. Specialised Animal Nutrition is the Australian distributor of Oxbow Animal Health products. Used and recommended by top exotic animal veterinarians around the globe,  the Oxbow range comprises premium life-staged feeds and supportive care products for small herbivores.

Microchips Australia: Microchips Australia is the Australian distributor for: Trovan microchips, readers and reading systems; Lone Star Veterinary Retractor systems and Petrek GPS tracking products. Microchips Australia is run by veterinarians experienced in small and large animal as well as avian and exotic practice, they know exactly what is needed for your practice.

Chemical Essentials. Cleaning and disinfection products and solutions for a wide variety of industries throughout Australia, as well as specific markets in New Zealand, Singapore and Papua New Guinea. The sole importer of the internationally acclaimed F10SC Disinfectant and its related range of advanced cleaning, personal hygiene and animal skin care products.

About Our Podcast

The veterinary podcast about veterinary medicine and surgery, current news items of interest, case reports and anecdotes. Wait: It’s not all about veterinary matters! We also discuss other areas we are passionate about, including photography and wildlife. Thanks for joining us – Brendan and Mark.

Our podcast is for veterinarians, veterinary students and veterinary nurses/technicians. If you are at pet owner please search elsewhere – there are lots of great podcasts aimed specifically at pet owners.

Disclaimer

Any discussion of medical or veterinary matters is of a general nature. Consult a veterinarian with experience in the appropriate field for specific information relating to topics mentioned in our podcast or on our website.